19 Oct 2009

Da Boot

Some house keeping is essential and I have had the unpleasant job of releasing some inactive pirates from The Bastards. It is one of the reasons why I was elected as CEO. Our recruitment officers are doing a fine job fielding new candidates and I leave them to it now but we have to make room for the newer recruits in this organisation. I have drawn an initial list of seven candidates that fulfil the following categories:

1. Been inactive from corp for over 3 months (i.e. haven't logged in) or more.
2. No forum activity in the last 3 months or more.
3. No email, evemail or post stating their unavailability to anyone.
4. No activity on kill board.
5. No activity on the ransom board.
6. No activity on the EVE-O forums.

Real life is more important and The Bastards is as much of a community as a well as an in-game corporation but it is time to prune and remove some dead wood.

Their roles have been removed from corporation now and some have already been transferred over to a rather innocent organisation going by the name of 'Garoun Investment Bank'. Hope the new-found corp mates are friendly. As ever, as these pilots get transferred, I leave them an explanatory note with an offer to re-apply if the urge for piracy returns.

I would be greatly interested to find out from some of my readers how they handle such inactive pilots. Should they be retained? Kicked sooner?

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Keeping them is a bad idea. It clutters up your ranks and lots of inactives can actually make newly joined people leave as they either think you are slacking, or something causes people to disappear.

We do basically the same but the limit is on one month without reason given. I do always make sure they have a message waiting for them when they come back if they have been contributing in the past. Trial members usually don't get these.

I consider it fair and most tend to be very understanding about it. Sometimes there is drama though. But that tends to confirm you did the right thing.
We generally kick pilots who disappear for over a month without leaving a mention of inactivity on the forum.
If they do leave a forum message, there's no problem and they can stay away from the game as long as is needed.

We recognize that EVE is a game, and sometimes people might not feel like playing or have more important things in need of their attention.

Sometimes kicked players return after a while and can explain why they went awol like that, and we will usually just let em back in, as we are a small corp with close personal ties to everyone in it.
1 reply · active 806 weeks ago
Personal ties are important but so is communication. Sometimes people do feel bored and don't back for a while; it is a game after all and yes, letting people back in after a chat and catch up is an even-handed and fair way of dealing with it.
I am of the mind that is the pilot has not logged in for 45 days boot him. Period. Yes offer the chance to come back but boot his ass. If there is a given reason by all means keep em, we drop them to a roleless level and then wait till they come back ( we have had a few guys go to Iraq/ etc) One thing we try to do is that we are judged by the number of pilots we field versus the number we have in corp. We do not allow alts to be in separate corps ( aside froom the NPC ones that is)
2 replies · active 806 weeks ago
Just wanted to add a note about how we handle alts: If they serve an active role in combat or industry, they go into the appropriate main corporation. If not they can join the holding corp or be kept in npc / personal corps. Being in the holding corp does have the benefit of alliance standings, which is never bad for a hauler for example. Not bothering putting all alt corps to blue though.

Perhaps going a little off-topic here but it is my experience that people having alts in other full-blown corporations are not the ones that will stick around for the long run. And that is not even to start on the issue of conflicts of interest arising. The way we do it, they just get eliminated before they can even start.
yes Alts are an issue but most of them are inactive or used to help haul 'stuff'. I don't think we have pilots with active alts in other player corporations that we don't know of. Unless, I have everyone's updated limited API key and check 'em periodically. I like your mention of how you are judged by how many you field versus the number you have in corp. What is the ratio that is acceptable to you?

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